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Someone started that lawnmower and pointed it your direction. Why shouldn't they be responsible when the lawnmower runs over your foot and cuts it off?

We should, which is why anthropomorphizing the lawnmower is bad. It misdirects you away from who built the mower and aimed it.

Exactly. My comment is a response to "The agents clearly regarded what they were doing as hacking".

Regarding implies it is thinking, judging, considering. Which implies culpability, which removes culpability from whoever is piping the output of these models into CPU instructions.

Language choice is incredibly important here, especially as the rules are being written. Even calling it AI (a battle that appears to be lost) is an anthropomorphism I am not comfortable with. We don't call lawnmowers "artificial groundskeepers".


> It misdirects you away from who built the mower and aimed it.

What gives you that idea? Maybe it is true temporarily, but blame always gets extended to all parties considered related in the end. For example, if it were instead a child who came at you with a knife rather than a lawnmower, the guardian of that child would also be blamed. Hell, if you've ever worked with a lawyer you'll have noticed that they spend a lot of time trying to ensure that you don't get dragged into lawsuits as a secondary party exactly because those who seek to assign blame aren't happy until all those who can be blamed are.


If an individual hacked these sites they would be criminally and civilly responsible.

Why don't we hold the companies launching AI agents to the same standard? They would be more responsible if there were some serious consequences beyond just bad PR.


I don't know how it works today, but 20 years ago bookstores wouldn't return unsold books (too expensive to ship) but would simply tear the covers off and throw them in the garbage.


People keep repeating the "rare books" without providing any evidence that they are rare. Anyone who has collected books knows there are massive volumes of old books that can be bought by the pound.


Any named book I have seen in the coverage of this are cheap crap books, that are available somewhere in the word from a public library. Its literal trash.


I feel they are thinking first printing of some mega classic or hand drawn book from antiquity. I am thinking of some generic romance or thriller from no name author bought at airport... Or some generic book on say birds or animals... Stuff that they would not take if given a full box for free.


Where's the evidence the books are "rare"?


>120 biolabs in over 30 countries

And yet the only ones listed in detail are the ones in Ukraine, huh.


You should ask BigCo if they're only providing goods/services to their customers "for the money."


If they are not doing just for money. Surely you should be able to give very good discounts to customer. After all why are profits aka. money needed?


He did so well with Theranos


Have always been fascinated with Paul Ewald's arguments (as laid out in his books The New Germ Theory of Disease and Evolution of Infectious Disease) that most chronic illnesses are due to pathogens.


Interesting, I'm noticing this pattern too more and more. The classic case was of course stomach ulcers. Now cardiovascular. Wouldn't be surprised if at least some neuro-degnerative diseases are also possibly caused by infections


Now we're seeing more colon cancer in young people. All of the discussion is around factors that change slowly (diet, alcohol, exercise), no one I've heard has pointed out that a pathogen would explain a quick change.


This seems similar to the "let's just rebuild from scratch" impulse that has been tried so many times on very large complicated systems and often, although not always, fails.


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